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Lumix GH5 Predictions: What Panasonic Needs To Do To Stay In The Game

I’ve been a huge fan of Panasonic’s GH cameras for years now, having owned the GH2, GH3 & GH4 at one point or another. Each iteration in the GH lineup has been more impressive than the last, but it was the GH4 that allowed Panasonic to make a real dent in the market. That said, over the last year a slew of competitive products have come out (Specifically Sony’s A7 line), that has left Panasonic with some stiff competition.

The GH5 is going to be a critical release for Panasonic and may be the product that solodifies their place in the market for years to come… But in order to that, Panny will need to step up their game in a number of areas.

I would have to assume that Panasonic’s GH4 was single handedly responsible for taking away more of Canon’s video-based DSLR customers than any other camera out there. After years of frustration with incremental “updates” on Canon’s DSLR lineup, many users turned to Panasonic – and for good reason. After all, sticking with a 5D Mark III (or similar camera) with a much higher price-tag and inferior video functionality just didn’t make sense for most shooters.
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For a while it seemed that Panasonic was perfectly positioned to take Canon’s spot as the dominant force in the low-budget video market… But then Sony came along with their A7S, and many Canon shooters who were looking to switch (and hadn’t already moved over to Panny), jumped ship to Sony. For some, the full frame advantage of the A7S combined with it’s incredible low-light performance made it a no-brainer. Ultimately it left a large segment of the DSLR video market undecided as to which camera to invest in.

In recent months Sony has aggrssively stepped up their game across their entire camera lineup. The A7R II in particular is truly a marvel, and in many ways is the camera to beat at the moment. Now it’s up to Panasonic to give us an answer to Sony and show us what they can really do.

I can only speculate as to which updates Panasonic may be including (or not) in their GH5, but in my opinion the features and specs listed below are crucial in order for the GH5 to remain a viable contender in the DSLR/mirrorless market.

Higher frame rates at 4K

The GH4 already is able to capture some really beautiful slow motion in 1080p – especially when the camera is kept to 60fps or lower. But in 4K mode you have no real ability to overcrank, much like Sony’s A7R II. If the GH5 is able to deliver 48fps or perhaps even 60fps at 4K, they would clearly have Sony beat in that department.

That said, accomplishing higher frame rates is easier said than done, especially at such high resolution. I’m by no means an expert on camera hardware, but I do know that capturing 60fps at 4K requires a lot of internal processing to be done, and ultimately the physical design of the camera can dictate whether that type of performance is possible. If Panasonic is actually able to deliver us 4K/60p, there’s a good chance the camera will also be re-designed slightly to handle the increased sensor heat more effectively, and might even need to record to a different format.

V-Log

Most GH4 owners have been on pins and needles waiting for Panasonic to release a firmware update that will incorporate a V-Log color profile, which will allow for more dynamic range and increased flexibility in post. At this point, I’m not sure if we’ll ever see V-Log made available for the GH4 via firmware, but it’s pretty much a given that it will be made available on the GH5.

V-Log in itself would be reason enough for many GH4 shooters to upgrade to the GH5, which may be why it hasn’t been released yet for the GH4. I’ve seen some great test footage floating around the internet, and even played with some GH4’s at NAB that had V-Log on board, so I’m not quite sure what the holdup has been in releasing it. Either way, Sony’s A7 cameras can already shoot in a Log color space and Panasonic definitely need to answer to that.

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Better Low Light

Let’s face it – it’s extremely unlikely that the GH5 will have low light performance that matches (or even comes close) to Sony’s A7 cameras. That said though, Panasonic has a lot of room to improve the low-light capabilities on the GH4, and really need to focus on doing so in order to stay competitive.

Personally speaking, I don’t typically choose to shoot at crazy high ISOs (such as 25,000) as I find the look of ultra high ISO footage pretty synthetic and flat… Even if it’s noise free.  So it really doesn’t matter to me if the GH5 can’t shoot as cleanly as the competition above a certain point. That said, the current GH4 is only useable up to 800 (based on my standards at least), and there are definitely situations when I could use the ability to bump up to 6400 and still shoot cleanly.

If Panasonic can get the GH5 to capture clean images in the ISO 6400 ballpark, that will go a long way. The camera may never be the best low-light camera on the market – but then again, it doesn’t need to be. It just needs to be sensitive enough for filmmakers working with limited lighting gear to still get great results.

Internal Stabilization

Probably the biggest draw of the A7R II to me is it’s internal 5 axis stabilization. I absolutely love the fact that you can slap on a fully manual lens and still be able to stabilize it effectively without a rig. That functionality allows me to shoot the way I want to shoot with a DSLR, keeping my setup to a minimum. If I really needed a bigger camera setup for any given production, I would probably rent a RED or Alexa if the budget could afford it. One of the biggest benefits of shooting on DSLRs is the small size of the camera, and having true in body stabilization allows the footprint of the camera to stay small, while eliminating the need for a rig in some instances.

One way or another, Panasonic needs to integrate some sort of internal stabilization system into their GH5. Not only to serve their video customers, but their photography customers too. At the moment their biggest competition (on the photography side) is probably Olympus, who have already figured out how to implement 5 axis stabilization onto some of their MFT cameras. So I would imagine there’s a considerable amount of pressure on the Lumix team to solve that problem for both their video and stills shooters.

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The Wow Factor

Everything I’ve listed above is absolutely necessary to make the GH5 a relevant and competitive tool in 2016, at least in my opinion. That said, none of the features/updates we’ve discussed so far are revolutionary. They are simply welcomed additions to an already great camera, that may make it more capable than the competition in certain regards. But there needs to be more…

To really grab everyone’s attention, Panasonic needs to have a trick up their sleeves. Something totally original or different that the competition doesn’t see coming. Something like the ability to record compressed RAW onto the SD cards, much like the Blackmagic Pocket Camera does. Or a radical new design that is ergonomically superior to the current version. I can’t pretend to know the answer to what this change should be, but I know that Panasonic really needs to go above and beyond incremental updates in order to really win over the market. They shouldn’t just be playing catchup with Sony – they should be creating something that makes the competition think: Why didn’t we think of that?

Will Panasonic Stick With Micro Four Thirds?

People have been wondering for years if Panasonic will eventually give one of their GH cameras a Super 35mm or full frame sized sensor. Personally, I don’t see that ever happening. Maybe in the future they will release a bigger brother to the GH line that has a larger sensor, but Panasonic have so much invested in the MFT format (including loads of great glass) that I really can’t see them pulling the rug out from their customers like that.

MFT-Sensor

Sony’s A7 cameras will always have the upper hand for shooters that are looking for a full frame solution. But not all shooters want (or need) full frame, and there are some big advantages to shooting MFT as well. Micro Four Thirds glass is more compact and less expensive, for starters… Not to mention, certain types of productions (documentaries, events, run and gun narrative) might prefer a deeper DOF in order to make focus pulling easier. There are pros and cons to both, and I really don’t see the MFT sensor size as a disadvantage, just a different option for shooters with different needs. I am confident that Panasonic is committed to the format and don’t see them jumping ship any time soon.

Final Thoughts

In the past, Panasonic has been really great about listening to their users and being innovative with their camera technology. The GH4 single handedly raised the bar for the competition when it was first released, and is still an incredible camera to this day. That said, now that the competition has caught up to Panasonic, they will need to do some heavy lifting in order to maintain their current customer-base, and continue winning over new users.

What do you think Panasonic needs to do to compete with the Sony A7R II? Comment below.

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Noam Kroll is an award-winning Los Angeles based filmmaker, and the founder of the boutique production house, Creative Rebellion. His work can be seen at international film festivals, on network television, and in various publications across the globe. Follow Noam on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook for more content like this!

68 Comments

  • Chris
    August 23, 2015 at 12:25 am

    Thanks for the great article Noam!
    I think if a coming GH5 would get an impressive dynamic range embedded in a better codec (some time next year it should be the time for h265 as an option probably, when it s natively supported by the skylake plattform) and stays in the same low price range compared to the competition, like the gh line always used to (although getting more expensive with each version over the years) this would allready be a great improvement.
    Imo most of the people using cameras like the gh4 or the a7s don t really need raw or the raw workflow, the big benefit of raw for them is more about having more dynamic range and no compression artefacts than doing heavy post… for people who really need raw, the ursa mini will be there.
    an olympus like 5axis stabilization would be amazing,but i m not sure if panasonic is going in this direction, i wish they would, and ad it to the ois like on the gx8, but also and especially for video.
    sensorwise it s hard to compete against sony regarding sensor size as a feature, but as the gh line exists quite some time yet a lot of folks sure also learned to love the benefits of the system, its compactnes and great ergonomics and the almost eternal battery life:)
    Personally I m also waiting to see what the a7s mkII will be like, dreaming of finally using really great old ff glass on it, but on the other side i m a true fan of the mft system so far as it got substencionally better with each generation which i really hope to see continued with the coming generations!

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    • Noam Kroll
      August 24, 2015 at 3:03 pm

      Thanks a lot for the note, Chris. You’re absolutely right that dynamic range is one of the biggest concerns for independent filmmakers. Whether it’s achieved through v-log, the codec, raw, etc… All anyone wants is to be able to shoot high DR scenes more effectively. Personally, I wouldn’t be shooting raw much on the GH5 either (if it did have that ability), but would like to see Panasonic push the technological boundaries in some way to really separate their line from the competition.

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  • Chris Webb
    August 23, 2015 at 10:24 am
  • spacc
    August 23, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Article intéressant, je partage votre point de vue.
    Mais je me pose la question d’un système hybride… Super 35 + MFT…
    Merci

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  • Dax
    August 23, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    A solid list. 48fps and/or 60fps is at the top of my wish list as well. When shooting in HD, I always overcrank to 60fps. I find it converts to 24p perfectly well while giving me the option of using slow-mo on any clip.

    Your list centers on the video capabilities, and that’s my priority, but I would like to see a boost in megapixels for stills. Even just a small boost to somewhere in the neighborhood of 20MP would allow for sharper images and more flexibility to crop. I wonder if there is an inherent limit to the MFT format that is preventing them from offering that, since there was no improvement between the GH3 and GH4.

    Also, a seemingly minor thing that drives me nuts: The AF/AE button can’t be used for back-button focusing while recording video. Like many pro photographers, I greatly prefer back button focusing. I always disable the shutter button focus entirely.

    Granted, I use manual focus for the majority of video takes, but when I do want to use autofocus, I hate using the halfway shutter button technique. An accidental full press cancels the recording! That’s a pretty awful risk to take every time you want to adjust focus automatically.

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    • Noam Kroll
      August 24, 2015 at 3:06 pm

      Good points Dax! And I have to agree, an increased megapixel count would be incredible. I shoot stills as well and would love to see 20 – 24 MP available on the GH5, although that may be wishful thinking… Also – great point about the AF/AE button!

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      • Espen Braathen
        August 24, 2015 at 4:35 pm

        I’m not sure going to 20 or 24 megapixels will be preferable. Going down to 12 MP is probably better for 60 fps 4K full frame readout and better sensitivity.

        Also, diffraction limited resolution is a big concern on M43 in certain types of images (i.e. macro) and increased pixel density will only makes things worse.

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        • Noam Kroll
          August 28, 2015 at 2:03 am

          Good point. Although Sony seems to be able to deliver great high ISO performance now, even with their high MP cameras like the Sony A7R II. Granted, that is full frame…

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      • Curtis
        August 25, 2015 at 5:57 pm

        Great article, Noam.

        In terms of pixel count, I wonder if it makes more sense for Panasonic to go the route that Sony originally took with the a7R and a7S: One opimized for low-light and video, the other for still photographers. That could help address the low-light limitations (I’m with you, I don’t like going above 800 ISO on the GH4). Or, they’ll need to pull a very impressive new technology out of their hat to improve the high ISO performance AND increase the pixel count.

        But then at some level, Panasonic potentially has the same issue as Canon where hey have their pro-level video cameras and their more consumer oriented hybrid cameras…

        No question, it’ll be interesting to see the direction they take!

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        • Noam Kroll
          August 28, 2015 at 2:10 am

          I think that would make a lot of sense. Personally, I never used the GH4 for stills (although it took very nice shots) and would have preferred a lower MP sensor with better low-light. Who knows though, maybe they have some new technology that will squeeze out more Megapixels and better low light… Wishful thinking maybe!

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  • La_Nonna
    August 24, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    my list:
    1) no crop in 4k mode.
    2) cleaner high ISO.
    3) In sensor stabilization

    Point 1 and 2 can be made simply reducing the pixel count , just like Sony did with the a7s.
    Point 3 may need a totally new technology.

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    • Noam Kroll
      August 28, 2015 at 2:04 am

      Good points. Thanks for sharing!

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  • Flaaandeeers
    August 25, 2015 at 12:06 am

    I feel really happy with my GH4. I think that if it finally gets vLog it will keep kicking asses for a really long time.
    And the GH4 is already competing with the A7RII, and beating it in several fields: rolling shutter, 4:3 mode for anamorphic shooting, price 😉

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    • Noam Kroll
      August 28, 2015 at 2:07 am

      Fair enough! It’s hard to argue with the GH4, especially given the price… The Sony A7R II is a way bigger investment.

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  • Tom
    August 25, 2015 at 1:01 am

    What about a native speedbooster built in to the next gen GH line?

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    • Noam Kroll
      August 28, 2015 at 2:08 am

      That’s so funny you said that – A friend and I were just talking about whether or not any MFT cameras will ever have this sort of functionality built it. It’s a great idea, but I doubt we’ll see it as it would take away from sales of native MFT/Lumix lenses.

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      • Antony Alvarez
        September 3, 2015 at 11:52 pm

        I think it’s more likely we see a M43 mount S35 sensor camera that allows you to adapt EF lenses and do a crop mode for your m43 lenses

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  • Steven W
    August 25, 2015 at 7:23 am

    I’m with you here on all these points. High quality slow motion would be fantastic.
    I’m thinking they’ll continue mFT for the gh5 and going forward for a while, but might eventually release another camera that is full frame or s35. I’m guessing whatever comes next will definitely have more megapixels which will be nice to see as I sometimes shoot stills as well.

    The thing that keeps me from wanting a Sony is their horrible rolling shutter, and the fact that (from what I’ve read) neither a7s nor a7rii will record continuously. This is HUGE for video shooters. I’m in my final year of film school for cinematography, and most of my current gigs are videography gigs, which sometimes include events or weddings. I’m hearing that the a7rii will freeze up after a few mins of it’s 4k video. That’s unacceptable.
    Sony also needs to get on the 10bit game, at least externally for the heavier grades. I’ve heard from professional colorists that they have issues pulling any solid keys with a7s slog footage. I think Sony just fears this will keep users from buying their higher end cameras.

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    • Noam Kroll
      August 28, 2015 at 2:08 am

      Thanks for your thoughts Steven! Sony is definitely far from perfect, and many of the issues you outlined here should definitely be taken into account depending on the type of shooting you do.

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  • jason
    August 25, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    I think that panny has done a horrific job with the Vlog situation and if they didn’t release it to the gh4 way too many people would be upset. After leaking that footage with Nick Driftwood and letting us grade it, it would be a big mistake to wait for the gh5. I love my gh4 but I hate being messed with like what Cannon does with their customers. I agree 100% with your list here and anything that adds more dynamic range is a huge plus. I think we will get almost the same specs as their dvx200 coming out which would be amazing, but I don’t think we will get anything above the specs of that camera.

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  • […] a few days ago, I wrote a post about the GH5 and the features that I hope to see included when it’s release…While all of the points I made there still are valid, the timeline and overall trajectory of the GH5 […]

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  • Raul Brailey
    September 1, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    Apparently both Nikon and Canon have some sort of patent on their proprietary connectors and Panasonic had to reinvent something that would work. If there are any third party developers having issues adapting their designs to Lumix cameras please drop me a note or better yet post your concerns here on the Blog and I ll get you to the best people at Panasonic to help you out.

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    • Noam Kroll
      September 5, 2015 at 7:38 pm

      Interesting, thanks for sharing.

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  • Harold
    September 3, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    I shoot insects and birds, exclusively, but just as a hobbyist. Nonetheless, 5 axis still and 4k video stabilization on a GH5 would be just great in my opinion. At 55 years old, stability starts to become an issue and IBIS would really help me. Also, knowing nothing about hardware myself, wouldn’t implementing H.265 go a long way towards helping keeping things cooled down?

    Now that I think of it, expectations kill. I don’t see 5x IBIS 4k video happening on the GH5, but I’d still buy just for the 5x IBIS stills feature.

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    • Noam Kroll
      September 5, 2015 at 7:42 pm

      I agree Harold – the number 1 feature upgrade that I would hope for is internal stabilization. After that, increased lowlight performance, higher frame rates, and some other wish list items. And I would imagine h265 would be a great option, but perhaps Lumix doesn’t want to jump on board until it’s supported by more applications.

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  • Frank SANABANKA
    September 16, 2015 at 3:50 am

    1. 22MP
    2.GPRS
    3.XAVC S
    4. LOWLIGHT
    5.Built-in Flash/CARD

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  • Dan
    October 3, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    I’m one of those lonely, neglected AF100 owners who would love to see an AF200: updated with GF4 or GF5 features, while maintaining interchangeable MFT lenses, built in ND filters, XLR audio inputs and other features needed for a true digital film/video camera.

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 15, 2015 at 1:16 am

      I never owned an AF100 but still feel your pain. Panasonic desperately needs to answer to the FS7/C100. Hopefully next year at NAB we’ll FINALLY get something!

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  • Tim
    October 3, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    For me the Wow factor would not be RAW (storage problems) but instead 10 bit 422 internal recording to 2 SD cards.
    I love my GH4 – but would appreciate slightly better ISO performance and more importantly would appreciate more attention to removing horrible noise in shadows at all ISO’s.

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 15, 2015 at 1:16 am

      Good point – the dual SD cards make a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!

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  • Wayne
    October 8, 2015 at 8:49 am

    I’m an amateur videographer so i can’t really comment much on camera technical stuff. I bought the GH4 last year and I would like to see Panasonic make the GH5 better in low light. Thanks

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 15, 2015 at 1:18 am

      Fair enough – I think many would have to agree with that.

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  • Rikard
    October 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    I am mostly a still photographer using GH4.

    On the top of my wish list for the GH5 are:

    – Much better low light performance. Clean ISO 6400 images is a must.
    – 20-24 MP
    – IBIS

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 15, 2015 at 1:19 am

      Thanks for this Rikard, let’s hope they deliver on it!

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  • Jeff
    October 21, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    Yes I have a pair of GH3 and a GH4. I love the footage i get from them both but here is my wish list for the GH5….

    1. internal 10 bit 4:2:2 at 150mbps [13.5 – 14.5 stops of dynamic range (i know 35mm is less than 14 stops but if it can be 14.5 why not)]

    2. 4k@60fps – 2k@96fps – 1080p@120fps Natural (and still keep the <—40% slowmo frame rate mode)

    3. a 4.5inch LCD

    4. PLEASE make the hdmi connection less flimsy and make it magnetic so that if something falls from your rig it will not ruin your port.

    5. a more direct way of setting custom buttons

    6. Make the body 10-20% larger over all. The Gh3 is small but well designed for handling and so is my GH4. However, the buttons and functions feel very crowded at times. The extra space would also allow for more internal hardware like a 422 color engine.

    7. Realtime video through wifi and the Lumix Link App.

    8. Faster focus (mostly the lens but it is also internal software also)

    9. Internal date labeling for file names.

    10. A CLEAN ISO 3200 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
    75% of my filming is in low light. I try not to use ISO1600 because of how much grain is introduced. I normally run at ISO1250 but even at that setting there is grain.
    Even with a Voigtlander 25mm f/.95 lens there is grain at 1250. The GH5 should have a ISO3200 at least equal to the current 1600 and have a 95% grain free ISO!1600.

    If all this can come in the GH5, I do not mind paying a bit more or if it gets 1oz or so heavier.

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 28, 2015 at 5:12 pm

      Thanks for sharing! Love your suggestions.

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  • Rick Idak
    October 23, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    For me it would be to shoot 4k at least 200 MB/sec. More would be great. Just not a fan of attaching Atomos Shoguns to get a better 4K recording.
    Cleaner higher ISO setting would be icing on the cake. A native pixel count of just 9 million which is 4k would greatly improve low light and cleaner video. Since most GH4 users use it for video. 9 megapixels is also good enough for most stills.
    How about 4:2:2 10 bit internal recording.

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 28, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      Great points Rick, thanks for this.

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  • mark
    November 2, 2015 at 7:28 am

    to make the GH5 they won’t even need to make a new camera at all : the moment they’ll make a servo zoom (wide to tele) then it will be instant GH5. But THAT will never happen. We all know why. There are two things preventing the current GH4 to become a cheap and beautiful R&G camera : the slow processing that makes the footage blur when panning and the lack of a servo zoom (with AF and everything, like a real video-camera). That’s marketing and guess what? in order to get the two things we’ll have to pay a LOT more (like 5 times more). Just for the two things that make a huge difference (and they know it)

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    • Noam Kroll
      November 12, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      Interesting take on it… I really wonder if Lumix is looking into a full frame (or at least Super 35) option for the GH line. That would be a game changer for a lot of Lumix shooters too…

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    • bzpop
      November 18, 2015 at 6:19 pm

      well, that’s DVX200 🙂
      all i want from GH5 is 4K60, that’s it, and i’ll be happy

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      • Noam Kroll
        November 24, 2015 at 9:50 pm

        Fair enough! Thanks for the note.

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  • RRRoger
    November 25, 2015 at 7:19 am

    I would like to see a new s35 Sensor in the GH5
    They can still use the MFT mount just like JVC did with the LS300.
    Panasonic already uses a Sensor that size in a CamCorder but I would like to see a new sensor that can shoot 4k60 and 1080P120 in the dark or at least 6400 ISO and as clean as the A7s.

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    • Noam Kroll
      November 28, 2015 at 9:31 pm

      Now, that would be cool. Super35mm is plenty for myself too… Full Frame is overkill in many instances.

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      • RRRoger
        December 8, 2015 at 7:23 am

        I am currently using an A7s because the poor/low light I have to shoot in is beyond the range of my GH4.
        I sent my A7sII back because all my shooting is on a TriPod where 5 axis stabilization is worthless and the 1080P120 that I bought it for was so poor in low light.
        Except for that low light performance, I like everything better about the GH4

        In order to get really clean ISO 6400+ I think they will need a 12MP s35 Sensor (they can still use the MFT mount).
        If they can do it with a MFT Sensor that would be fine too as I like the increased DOF.

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        • Noam Kroll
          December 8, 2015 at 5:05 pm

          Interesting to hear about your experience and thanks for sharing. I can say with confidence that if Panasonic were to release a S35mm GH5, I would consider switching back from my Sony A7S II.

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  • RRRoger
    December 17, 2015 at 1:12 am

    APS-C might work even better as it is taller and narrower and closer to an image circle in shape.

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  • Jim Burnes
    January 1, 2016 at 12:24 am

    Good review of the things panny needs to do. A few comments on those and a couple more.

    1. VFR 4k up to 96 or 120 FPS with little noticeable loss
    2. All modes output to HDMI/SDI (especially VFR). SDI is an optional, but simple add on by linking to a SDI ribbon micro connector on the body.
    3. 4K 4:2:2 in camera recording
    4. Raw output to optional SDI connector in all modes
    5. Low light sensor with a native ISO of 1600 or 3200. Possibly achieved using fewer photosites.

    When it comes to something ground-breaking I think you’re right that raw local recording would be incredible — maybe to something like a simple M.2 SSD. Even more amazing would be something completely groundbreaking like a synthetic aperture sensor yielding an effective 46 stops like the human eye.

    happy new years!

    jim burnes

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    • Noam Kroll
      January 3, 2016 at 9:02 pm

      Great points, and thanks so much for sharing. Happy new year and I’ll see you around the site!

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  • Annabella
    January 27, 2016 at 8:55 am

    Cool ideas! I have a lumix G7 that i use for everyday and i also have a canon 700d that i use mainly as a backup camera. But i was recently thinking of upgrading to the gh4. I mainly do stills photography and i really like the G7, but i still like all the other things the gh4 can do, plus the fact its weather sealed is a huge selling point for me. But then i heard about the GH5 apparently coming out in september for Photokina and now im torn between getting the GH4 now or waiting a few months and getting the GH5. Its just that nobody knows what kind of upgrade the GH5 will be over the GH4. Now having never used the GH4 and only know it through reviews and things like that, the one improvement im looking for from the GH5 is low light performance. I dont care if its not as good as the a7r ii because its 1/4 of the price, but still needs an improvement. And im hoping to see it in the 18-20 mp range (like the canon rebel lineup). But ya because nobody knows anything about what it will be like and panasonic wont say anything i cant decide if i should get the gh4 or wait for the gh5

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    • Noam Kroll
      January 28, 2016 at 3:51 am

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts Annabella. If you aren’t in a huge rush I would say wait until April since there will be a ton of new cameras announced at NAB. That way, even if you go with the GH4 the price may start to drop around then.

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  • Annabella
    January 28, 2016 at 9:12 am

    Thanks Noam! It makes more sense now as i have heard from other people that when Panasonic does announce the GH5, it probably wont be released for another 3-6 months after that. So if it is announced in april it lines up for the Photokina release.

    I really hope it is announced then in April then atleast I would have a comparison to make on which to get.

    🙂

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    • Noam Kroll
      February 1, 2016 at 1:31 am

      Definitely! Fingers crossed…

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  • miovio
    January 31, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    Got the Panasonic G7 and it seems to perform better than GH4 in low light, so this being the weakest point for the GH4, together with having only those highly compressed H.264 codecs.
    Lets dream for the stars and maybe the GH5 will make us touch the sky.

    1. Even better low light performence than the G7, hopefully with the long awaited High Dynamic Range low noise Organic CMOS sensor.
    2. Max 4k 10 bit 422 HQ 25fps ProRes, plus 4k 10 bit 422 60fps and 240fps 1080p in new H.265 codecs in camera recording.
    3. Max 4k 12 bit 444 24fps ProRes, plus Lossless CinemaDNG raw external recording via optional
    SDI output.
    4. Dual card slots.
    5. Dual Image Stabilization as in GX8.
    6. Better flip screen resolution.

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    • Noam Kroll
      February 1, 2016 at 1:38 am

      Good suggestions – thanks for sharing.

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  • Cameron Longshaw
    March 29, 2016 at 6:59 am

    I agree with the article 100%. Those are the same improvements I’d ideally like to see in the GH5.

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    • Noam Kroll
      March 29, 2016 at 10:35 pm

      Glad to hear! Thanks for the note.

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  • RRRoger
    March 30, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    I would like to see two versions of the GH5
    1. R for resolution with 20-36 MegaPixels optimized for Photos.
    2. S for sensitivity with 12-20 MegaPixels optimized for low light Video.

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    • Noam Kroll
      April 17, 2016 at 4:15 pm

      Cool idea – thanks for the note!

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  • Joe simpson
    April 13, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    Good assessment. Thanks! I purchased the G7 in anticipation of the Gh5. 60fps 4K, 6k for cropping real estate, in body stabilization and get me to a clean 3200iso and I actually would prefer over Sony. I am having so much fun buying and trying the myriad of old and classic lenses. I have a speedbooster and some of my old canon glass. The G line is perfect for the guy/girl who loves high quality video with inexpensive and vast lens options. I am excited to see what third quarter GH5 release brings!!

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    • Noam Kroll
      April 17, 2016 at 4:42 pm

      Good points Joe! I’m excited too… Looking forward to seeing what comes of all of this.

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  • PTV
    October 22, 2016 at 4:40 am

    Apparently there is no in-body image stabilization on the GH5. That’s a deal-breaker. I’ll have to pass unfortunately.

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    • Noam Kroll
      October 25, 2016 at 4:34 pm

      That’s a shame! Especially since it’s so widely available on other cameras at the moment… Regardless, the GH5 does look like a great camera in many other respects. But for some I’m sure the lack of stabilization will be a deal breaker.

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  • VICTOR CASILLAS ROMO
    June 6, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Hello I have been trying to investigate if the camera Sony Alpha A7S and Panasonic GHS have the problem of the overheating of the sensor, and also the time of video recording, which is usually 30 mins in some other photo cameras.

    thanks Victor Casillas Romo

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    • Noam Kroll
      June 8, 2017 at 5:07 pm

      Hi Victor – I haven’t heard of any overheating issues, but am not certain if there is a record time limit on either camera…

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